, in this environment, you know, with things like sandy going on and things would be for casting job growth and hiring people, but instead they're laying off people and yet a long list of companies on that and the reason is, they see a sour economy. >> why do they see a sour economy? >> government is growing bigger and stephan, about 24%, study after study has shown, as government takes over a bigger percentage of gdp, it surely will, faster than perceived or forecast at gdp growth, it crowds out private investor and growth period in the economy, slower growth means fewer jobs, that's why you see the list we had at the beginning and why the list will grow longer as the weeks unfold. >> okay, tobin, the next four years, bigger government, what's it mean for the unemployment rate? >> well, brenda, you know, that if bigger government meant for more employment, california and france would have the most vital economies in the world. i've been in a lot of different parts of the country speaking with small business people and you know, my conference of course, drew millions. the exciting one that they couldn
